MIA Recoveries


Below are some recent letters that I have received regarding my MIA recovery expeditions. These letters were received between 2008 and 2009.


From: Ed Alves
To: Clayton Kuhles
Sent:
Sunday, December 20, 2009 10:03 PM
Subject: Thank You

Clayton,

I was reading about your efforts to locate MIA’s on AOL. I personally have not lost any family members in the military but I wanted to write and say how touched I am personally that you have devoted so much of yourself to this effort. I am unable to help financially but I wanted to say thank you, you are a great American and god bless you. Sincerely,

Ed Alves


From: Joy Hurt Eyer
To: Clayton Kuhles
Sent:
Saturday, December 05, 2009 8:46 PM
Subject: Is there any way you could look for Captain Cecil Perkins?

Dear Mr. Kuhles,

Next week will be the anniversary of the disappearance of Captain Cecil Perkins who was the pilot of a plane that crashed on the way to Danang in December of 1972. He is still listed as MIA by the Army. Two other men were with him on that plane. All of us who knew him still hold out hope. We think of him so very often and his mother has clung to life to see him home.

I grew up with Buddy. I was a sickly little girl and he made me do daring feats I would never have done otherwise. He was like my brother to me and I will never be the same since he was lost. We fished, played and hunted in the country on our farm and his grandfather's.

I cannot believe that some accountability cannot be made when he crashed in an area that was only 15 miles off from a major base.

Talk in the family was that he was CIA and did investigative flying.

The night he went down, I woke up here in America and walked into my kitchen and suddenly, I was standing behind him in Nam and he was going down. I know that it is so weird to say, but I heard him say "We have a fire on board." I knew him so well and I knew he was scared. I had only seen him scared once in our lives....when we were going to fish and the bull charged us. I was always saying as I followed him jumping out the barn loft or some other dare deviltry...We are going to die. Buddy would always laugh, butthis time he turned to me seriously as the bull bore down on us and said, Now we are going to die.

The sheepdog saved us both.

When I saw Bud and heard him say that they had a fire on board, there was a young man sitting sideways near me and I was behind the pilot and co-pilot's seat. The young man got sick from fear as they went down. I could not see back, but I think there were some little Vietnamese people in the back. Just an impression. I saw the plane hit on land and Bud and his friends stood up and for some reason, removed their helmets and then I saw them go out the side alive. Bud was scared.

Then, I was back in the US in my kitchen. All these years, I have prayed for him and we are getting so along in age now that I keep thinking that we need to know something soon.

Please let me know if you could look for him. I don't think DaNang would be that hard, would it? You can find his records on the wall of the Hawaiian Memorial.

Thank you so much for whatever you can do.

Sincerely,
Joy Hurt Eyer


From: Dana Barry Bauguess
To: Clayton Kuhles
Sent:
Friday, November 13, 2009 10:18 AM

Dear Mr Kuhles:

Just happened along your website while researching my great uncle, John A. Deaux, Jr. He was my grandmother's little brother, and she mourned him greatly when he was lost during the War . . . actually she mourned him for the rest of her life. She is buried in Portland, TN, right next to where John A.'s marker is.

My dad, John Barry, was born just a few months after that, and we all grew up hearing the stories of my great uncle. Your discovery of the plane wreckage adds closure, and I thank you for having found it. I will pass this information on to my immediate family. They will be interested to know.

I sent you a small donation via paypal and wish you much success in the future.

God Bless you, and thanks again.
Dana Barry Bauguess


From: Steve Deaux
To: Clayton Kuhles
Sent:
Wednesday, November 11, 2009 8:19 PM
Subject: Thank You

Dear Clayton:

I saw an article on aol today that talked about all the work you've done in finding and recovering lost airmen. I read the article to my elderly and ailing (widowed) mother and she was moved to tears. Thank you again from a nephew of a fallen "Hump" pilot, 1Lt John A. Deaux. Thanks also for your service and happy Veterans Day. God bless,

Steve Deaux


From: John Sherrick
To: Clayton Kuhles
Sent:
Wednesday, November 11, 2009 6:16 PM
Subject: Many Thanks!

Clayton -

I was so impressed and moved by what I read about you that I had to help. I am a big WWII buff and am always amazed and humbled by the sacrifices and contributions made by our veterans, especially our WWII vets. I was considering making a charitable contribution to the Collings Foundation this year, but I think I am going to pass that money on to you over the next few months. I do not have any relatives who are MIA's but I know that if I did, I would want to know more about them and to have closure. Please continue doing what you do best - find these men. Use your donations wisely and remained focused on the goal. . . helping families bring closure and peace to their lives.

Many thanks -

Respectfully,
John Sherrick


From: Mike Arnold
To: Clayton Kuhles
Sent:
Wednesday, November 11, 2009 2:54 PM
Subject: Thank You

I just read one of the stories of your searches, and i must say thank you for what you are doing. I do not have any family members that were MIA or KIA during WWII but to see someone spending so much of their own money and time helping families of these lost soldiers you are a hero in my eyes. Most successful businessmen like yourself do not care about anything but their own well being and profits, but you are spending your hard earned money on recovering these lost soldiers and bringing peace to the families. I wish i could donate to help the cause, but with the economy in the shape it is i am struggling to make ends meet. Keep up the good work, stay safe, and God bless.

Sincerely,
Mike Arnold


From: Christine Fluhr
To: Clayton Kuhles
Sent:
Saturday, October 31, 2009 6:36 AM

My uncle was killed during WW2 but his body was never recovered. I was wondering if you have any information on a plane that disappeared June 14, 1944 flying, I believe, from Chabua to Calcutta. It was a C47 serial number 41-7793. I have seen the MACR but no remains were ever located.

The pilot was 1st Lt. Joseph W. Trammell. My uncle's name is Pfc. George F. Buckner. Any information you might have would be very much appreciated. Has anyone ever searched for the remains of this flight?

Thank you for the work you are doing.

Christine Fluhr


From: George Maupin
To: Clayton Kuhles
Sent:
Monday, September 07, 2009 6:54 PM

Mr. Kuhles:

Gary Zaetz contacted me last week and indicated that we all have much in common. l am George R. Maupin, son of 2nd Lt. George R. Maupin who was the bombardier on Haley’s Comet, a “sister ship” to Mr. Zaetz’s uncle’s plane “Hot as Hell.” Your interest in this particular theatre of war and what you’ve accomplished to date is nothing short of noble and extraordinary. I would be more than happy to provide you with any information that I have about my father’s service in India and China.

George R. Maupin


From: Nancy Seidel
To: Clayton Kuhles
Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 6:53 AM
Subject: Kenneth Seidel

I wanted to thank you for your work. I am married into the family of Kenneth Seidel (aircraft you recently found in the Himalayas). He would have been my husband’s uncle. My father in law (Paul Seidel) was Kenneth’s brother.

Finding the crash site, etc. puts the family’s questions to rest.

THANK YOU!
Nancy Seidel


From: David Jeffrey
To: Clayton Kuhles
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009 1:32 PM
Subject: Lt. James M. Jeffrey 0 794 013

Dear Clayton,

I received a call today from Gary Zaetz concerning my second cousin, Lt. James M. Jeffrey Serial Number 0 794 013. He informed me that you had discovered his plane wreck in India, and guided me to your website. He is listed under C-87 #41-23696.

I have been searching for him for many years. My father and he were first cousins. My Dad's (D. Gordon Jeffrey)father was David Jeffrey, and James' Dad (Duncan Jeffrey) were brothers, who came over from Scotland.

I have called the US Army Casualty Office as well as JPAC to have my name listed for contact.

I am his only living relative (except for my 2 sons). I hope we are able to retreive his remains as there is an empty grave, next to his brother who also died in WWII, waiting for him.

Thank you for all the good work that you are doing, and my heartfelt thanks for Gary Zaetz for contacting me today. I would appreciate any help you can give me, and I will keep you posted.

Sincerely Yours,
David G. Jeffrey


From: Roxanne Johnson
To: Clayton Kuhles
Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 8:21 PM
Subject: Robert L Looney my Uncle

Mr. Kuhles,

I spoke to my Father yesterday about the discovery of my Uncle Robert L. Looney and his plane that went down in 1945. I would like to find out more information specifically about the recovery of the remains of the pilot and crew. I understand it is a very remote area on a very high mountain slope. Is there a recovery planned? If there is not do you know who I would contact about such an expedition?

I remember looking at his picture in his uniform the very first time as a small child. I was amazed at how much he looked like my father and subsequently like me, as I am the image of my Dad. I still have the picture which as far as I know is the only picture of him.

Dad always tells a story about him. He said RL (which is what the family called him) was home on Christmas leave in 1941. Dad said it was the night of December 6, 1941 and RL had been in his old bedroom playing with his HAM Radio, which he had since he was a young teenager. Dad said RL came running out of the bedroom and exclaimed to the family that he needed to get back to the base right away; that something terriable was going to happen and they would all hear about it in the morning. He flew out of the house with his duffle bag and they never saw him again. Dad said he was never able to find out what RL heard on that HAM Radio that night, but of course it must have been something about Pearl Harbor. Dad said 3 days later he was standing in a recruitment line and left Nebraska a few short days later. He was never able to talk to his brother except through some very short and censored letters after that.

I read the poem that was included in the email that Dad forwarded to me. It was sad to read. He wrote of his desire to just go home, which he never was able to do. I have never met my Uncle but I would like to finally bring him home some day. I believe every hero deserves to come home.

If this is all I am able to find out about RL's fate I thank you for that. I have always wondered about the man in the picture that was looking back at me with my face.

Sincerely,
Roxanne "Dee" (Allison) Johnson


From: bbss7275
To: claytonkuhles
Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2009 8:00 AM
Subject: Correspondence Posting

Clayton,

Thanks very much for your various follow-ups with regard to my recent informational questions. The following is the correspondence that I would request that you include in your next update:

Subject: CHENGKUNG, CHINA / WWII B24J MISSING IN ACTION /NOVEMBER 16, 1944

I am looking for the opportunity to communicate with family members of the B24J crew and I am willing to share quite a significant amount of family archival/research data that I have related to this event. There is quite a story involved here. I will attempt to provide a very short synopsis.

My biological father, Keith Wentworth Pinto, was a navigator on a B24J that was reported missing in action in China on November 16, 1944. This was the crew's first mission after arriving in China and they were one of a select number of crews to be trained on the very secret Norden LOB (low altitude bombing system). The plane was returning from a recon mission over the South China Sea and last reported in over friendly territory about 45 minutes out from landing in Chengkung, China. Throughout their lives, my grandparents never believed the missing in action status. They always believed that the crew was taken out of China for some type of secret project in another part of the world. My grandparents archival information indicates that before the crew left for China, the co-pilot, the bombardier and my father introduced my grandmother to Bill Metro (who worked in a butcher shop in Washington DC). They told her not to believe a missing in action report and to always trade at the butcher shop. So, after the missing in action status, this Bill Metro would meet informally with some of the crew members families to indicated that the "Angels" (this was his term for the crew) were involved in a secret experiment and would be returning after the war was over. He also recommended that my grandparents read the Al Capp comic strip, Lil Abner. Apparently the Lil Abner comic strip was used from the mid 1940s into the mid 1950s to convey information to families of individuals involved in intelligence work. Bill Metro was a real person, but I'm have not been able to prove his "official" status as a "go between". I have also not been able to prove the use of the Lil Abner comic strip as a vehicle for intelligence communications. The mission details are as follows:

1. 14th Air Force, 308th Bomber Group, 375th Bomber Squadron.
2. Serial number of the B24J 44-41451.
3. Crew members: Duane Beadle (Pilot), Charles Graper (Co-pilot), Rudolph Lane (Gunner), Stanley Levin (Radar Observer), William Martin (Radio Operator), Francis Parker (Gunner), Keith Pinto (Navigator), Raymond Root (Engineer), Giocondo Rufini (Navigator), Kingdon Sterngold (Bombardier), William Taylor (Gunner).

Anyone interested in communicating with me should feel comfortable in doing so by using the following contact information. Thanks very much for your posting of this message and for all the good work you do in the MIA recovery process.

Bob Pasek


From: tpselectnfp
To: claytonkuhles
Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 10:31 AM
Subject: Captain Thomas Clare

Dear Mr. Kuhles,

Last Saturday I received a call from Gary concerning my Great uncle, Captain Thomas Clare. It has taken me this long to respond to you, as I have been unable to find the words that express the appreciation of myself as well as my family, for your valiant efforts of recovery of our nations forgot ton. Tom's widow, my Aunt Irma passed away three years ago at the age of 102. Irma was quite a woman. A published author, and philanthropist. She established the Thomas Clare Scholarship Foundation at Elmherst College, Tom's Alma Mater, for the memory of " the only man in my life". She new this day would come, and she knew that I would do everything I can to bring him home to her. And thanks to you, I may now begin.

Best Regards,

Tom Peters


From: Joshua Grim
To: miarecoveries.org
Sent: Monday, May 25, 2009 10:41 AM
Subject: Dear clayton, My name is Joshua Grim an iraq veteran.

Dear Clayton,

My name is Joshua Grim, and I was stationed in mosul and baghdad Iraq from october2005-november2006. I was an infantryman fighting with alpha company2-1 172nd stryker brigade combat team out of Ft. Wainwright, AK.One of my friends was killed on memorial day 2005 in mosul and because of this todayalways has a special place with me.The reason im writing is because i just saw a news specialabout missing airmen that were flying "the hump"I thinkis what they called it during wolrd warII andI saw what you were doing.ManI cant even begin to tell you how thateffects me.Anyone that has ever beenin the military realizes that the worst thing ever is to be left in a world thousands of miles away from theirhomes.I would never write an emailto a random person, howeverthe story really touched me.I dont know exactly what im asking, but I would love to knowif there was anything at all possible to help.I do not have any money and im sorry to say that, but timeshave been real tough for me as well as alot of americans recently.Still having said that if there is anything at all thatI could do to helpI would love to playa part in this great cause.Maybe one day if your still doing this andI couldget the money togetherI could go with you on one of these trips.I have had a real hard time with PTSD andI couldnt see a better cause to help therapy wise then helping families that gave up so much when they let their loved ones go off to war only to never see them again and wonder what happened.Thanks somuchif for nothing else at leasthaving taken the time to read this letter.

GOD BLESS OUR GREAT COUNTRY AND THE PEOPLE THAT DO SO MUCH FOR IT!

JOSHUA GRIM


From: Governor Janice K. Brewer / Office of the Governor
To: Clayton Kuhles
Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009
Subject: Arizona Governor's Proclamation

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From: Arizona House Of Representatives
To: Clayton Kuhles
Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009
Subject: 49th Legislature

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From: John Thayer
To: Clayton Kuhles
Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009
Subject: Crash Site of B-24D 42-40069 (Pregnant Swan)

Dear Mr. Kuhles:

I just stumbled upon your website a few days ago and was awestruck to see the photos of the crash site of the "Pregnant Swan". For the past 3-4 years, I have been trying to find more information concerning the location of my Uncle's plane that went down while crossing the Hump in the China/Burma/India theater during WWII. My uncle, Erle H. Thayer, SSgt, served as the Engineer for the plane. My father (now deceased) talked about my uncle a lot. Your website with the photos and the site report brings a sense of relief and completeness to know that his plane has been found and that he and the crew are no longer classified as MIA.

I want to thank you for your heroic and gallant effort in locating these aircraft crash sites from WWII. You are bringing joy, peace, and long anticipated closure to many people who are looking for information and answers about their MIA loved ones. Keep up the great work you are doing!

V/r,
John Thayer
Peoria, AZ


From: Jane Hunt Owens
To: Clayton Kuhles
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2009
Subject: MIA Report

Jane Hunt Owens Letter

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From: Donald Steinmuller
To: miarecoveries.org
Cc: Michael Swanson
Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2009 7:11 AM
Subject: WW II crash recoveries

Mr. Kuhles

I want to thank you for all the work you are doing to find the planes and airmen that crashed in the expeditions to fly over the "hump" in Burma during World War II. Warren Thornley, a pilot for some of those flights, is a patient of mine and told me about your work and gave me some of the information and pictures he had received from you.

My uncle, Donald Swanson, was a crew member on one of the planes that crashed in the mountains of northern Burma. I do not believe his plane has ever been found although there are coordinates for the crash site that were identified when a plane shortly after the crash identified the plane numbers and recorded the approximate site.

Do you have any update on this crash? I have some further information on the date, site, and crew members that I am trying to find (temporarily misplaced) but will send it when I find it. Mr. Thornley gave me a list of the planes that crashed that, I believe he received from you, with his flight information.

Your expeditions are a wonderful contribution to the memory of these individuals and indeed help relatives like me who heard about them while growing up come to some closure and help put their lives into the spectrum of our family heritage. I was named for my uncle by his sister, my mother. I was born in 1946. My cousin, Michael Swanson, is the other surviving child of Donald Swanson's siblings.

I would love to have the opportunity to travel to the area to see what it is like and meet some of the people (or find my uncle's plane!). Do you ever take any relatives with you? I am 63 and in relatively good health. Is the travel to these areas in Myanmar, India and China too dangerous and arduous for someone like me? Is it safe to go to Myanmar with a guide? It appears that the mountain jungle/rain forest area where most of the crashes occurred is very undeveloped and physically challenging. Is this changing? Are there any more roads or easier access now?

In any case, thank you again for your efforts and good luck with you future endeavors.

Donald Steinmuller MD


From: inez1040
To: Clayton Kuhles
Cc: Pam Corban
Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 5:14 PM
Subject: Huland K. Hunt

Buddy was my first cousin, just a little younger than me. I dreamed so many times of him walking in the door. The discovery of his plane remains has brought closure to me.

His sister, Jane Owens, lives in Tampa and said I was the first person she called when she heard of the discovery.

In looking for these pictures I located a V-mail and also a postcard from him to my mother. Were there any human remains?

Thank you again for your efforts.

Inez McMillin
Bartow, Fl


From: Liz
To: Clayton Kuhles
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2009 4:35 PM
Subject: RE: 1st Lt. Robert M. King

Dear Clayton

Today Gary Zaetz called and told me that you had found the wreckage of my husbands plane. It has been over 60 years that I have been waiting for some kind of information. The USGovt told me years ago that couldn’t get to the site, but if herb gatherers could then I think the Govt should especially now that they have much better ways and means. I can’t begin to tell you how much I appreciate your help. I still get very emotional when I talk about as Gary could tell you. My son Jeffrey Commins is the one who went on the internet and found Lisa Phillips and got this whole thing started. That’s how I found out good people were trying to help people like me.

I will send you a picture of Bob in a day or so. My son lives next door to me and will help me. I’m not the greatest on the computer I can just do basics, e-mail, and banking.etc.

Thank you again and again

Liz (King) Commins


From: Cathy Connelly
To: miarecoveries.org
Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2009 8:35 AM
Subject: Pregnant Swan

Mr. Kuhles,

I spoke with you this morning re Gerald/Jerrold E. Owens, co-pilot on the Pregnant Swan. You are doing an amazing job! This has been a mystery to our family for over sixty-five years, and I am still so overwhelmed that the plane was found--and that his sister Theopa Sheen is still alive and was coherent enough to understand!

Please send me the address so we can write for the 293 file you mentioned.

Again, thank you so much- you are truly a blessing and an angel!

Cathy Connelly, cousin


From: Carolyn Jones
To: Clayton Kuhles
Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2009 8:35 PM
Subject: RE: B-24D #42-40069 - Louis Verhaegen

Thank you so much for returning my email...

Yes my maiden name is spelled Verhaegen...and I believe his middle initial might be E, not F, but I will have to check...I will go through my parents pictures and scan in a picture of my Uncle...

You have brought tears to my eyes, thinking of my Uncle, but I'm happy to have some closure to a story that I have grown up with(and I'm 42 now)...

Will you be able to tell me at some point if there are any remains that were found ?

Sincerely
Carolyn Jones
Special Business Services


From: Carolyn Jones
To: miarecoveries.org
Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2009 5:38 PM
Subject: B-24D #42-40069 - Louis Verhaegen


Dear Mr. Kuhles,

My name is Carolyn Verhaegen Jones and my uncle is listed on the Missing Aircrew Report for B-24D #42-40069, Louis F. Verhaegen….He was my Dad's brother. If there is any information you can give me it would be greatly appreciated…All of the direct relatives of my uncle have passed away…I have grown up hearing about my Uncle Louie, and have waited a lifetime to hear any information about his plane crash…

Sincerely,
Carolyn Jones


From: Kirsten Palmer
To: miarecoveries.org
Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 7:05 PM
Subject: Sgt Ernest Roush

Mr. Kuhles,

My great uncle, Sgt Ernest E. Roush, was a crew chief on a C-87 that crashed while flying the Hump on 19 July 1943. I have recently tracked down his MACR so I can tell you the tail number is 41-11907 (see attached). After this event, his brother (my grandmother's other brother) joined the Army to was learning to be a pilot when he was tragically killed in a mid-air collision. As you can imagine, these two events devestated my great-grandparents and my grandmother who just lost two brothers who were very dear to her.

As I grew up, I learned a little about my great uncles, but it wasn't until recently that I learned I could maybe help identify my great uncle if his remains were ever found. My mother and I have both provided DNA samples to JPAC so if his aircraft is ever found, there may be a chance his remains could be returned to Oregon and be placed next to his brother's grave where there is a headstone for Ernest, but no remains.

I am a Major in the US Air Force and happen to be an aircraft maintenance officer. I didn't know at the time that I picked that career field that my great uncle was also an aircraft maintainer. Although I never met my uncle, I have a bond with him and would be so greatful if you ever found his missing aircraft and possibly some of his remians that could be returned to my family.

v/r,

Kirsten Palmer


From: Lenox
To: claytonkuhles
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 2:48 PM
Subject: My Father's plane

Missing Aircraft - Staff Sergeant Alvin Jack Lenox

Dear Mr. Kuhles,

My name is John Lenox and my daughter, Christine, forwarded your email to me. First, let me say thank you so very much for the work you do and for finding my fathers plane in Northern India. We really were shocked when we heard the news and went to the web site and checked it out. I am working closely with Warren Rabe to get the government moving on the excavation.

Along with that I contacted our local newspaper, The Las Vegas Review Journal, and my Mother and I were interviewed this morning by their military reporter, Keith Rogers. They also videotaped the interview and will be putting the story up on their web site as soon as possible, hoping to have it up by this Sunday. They will be contacting you about using the pictures you took at the crash site for their report. I am asking you to allow them to do that as this story is very important to my family and your pictures are a significant part of it.

You asked Christine for a picture of my Father and I have many, I will be happy to send you one or more, just let me know what size you would like and where to send it. I’m sorry I can’t scan one and email it to you as I don’t have the equipment to do that.

I look forward to working with you and, at some point, meeting you in person. I would also like to contribute financially to assist you in your continuing efforts to find the missing military personnel. Please let me know how I go about doing that.

The newspapers web site is www.lvrj.com/news.

God Bless,
John A. Lenox


From: Gary and Michele
To: miarecoveries.org
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 6:16 PM
Subject: picture Robert Fensler

Clayton,

E-mailed you picture of my Uncle Robert. Thank you very much for your hard work. My father Dick(Richard) is very excited that you have found his brother's plane. Even though it happened a long time ago it will provide closure for our family.

Again thanks,

Sincerely,
Gary Fensler


From: Barbara Knudson
To: claytonkuhles
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 5:56 AM
Subject: B24D #42-40069

Dear Mr. Kuhles,

My name is Barbara Fensler Knudson, the daughter (& only child) of Major Robert W Fensler who was in command of the "Pregnant Swan" when it was lost.

We don't know what drives you to undertake these searches, but it is extraordinary what you bring to the relatives of these men. Since receiving news of the discovery, there are family members who had been out of touch for years now phoning each other weekly, catching up on each other's lives, & remembering Robert. We also have a new cousin, Frank Fensler, in our life who up until this event we didn't know existed!

You spoke by phone to my uncle, Dick Fensler in Tulelake CA. He was so appreciative of your call, but was so surprised that he forgot to ask you some of the questions foremost on his mind. Perhaps you two will have another go at it.

Just know how grateful we are for you bringing us the end of the story!

Sincerely,
Barbara Knudson


From: Jon & Ingrid Frank
To: Clayton Kuhles
Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 2:57 PM
Subject: Lt Robert Tinsley

Dear Clayton:

Thank you for your email which I received this morning. Since the last time I wrote I had a chance to review Betty Clark's collection of letters from her late brother. There were also some other letters I found which I'll get to in a minute.

Betty and I are both thrilled that you believe you have a good idea where the crash site is. This is incredible news.

Over the past month I read over 100 letters from Bobby (2nd Lt. Tinsley). Although I learned just a little of what he was up to operationally (security and censorship were facts of life that he often mentioned) I did learn enough to get a good sense of the man. I followed him through three flight schools and then to India. From what I gathered from his letters his experience in flying the hump had him growing up fast. Although he was never involved in combat he made references that lead me to believe that he lost many friends. The flying was very tough. He describes the combination of the cold, heavy clothing, and having to breathe oxygen as extremely tiring. In another letter he talks about flying in winds over 100 miles per hour when traversing the Himalayas. I'm sure you know that the C-46 was not really equipped to fly safely in the weather conditions that hump pilots experienced. In one letter he is obviously feeling the strain when he says "All we have to think about Japs-weather-instruments -Zeroes." Then there is a letter in which he poignantly remarks " I'll never be able to paint a picture with words to equal what I've seen."

2nd Lt. Tinsley must have been very good at his job as he was promoted to the left seat and then shortly before his death he was sent to check pilots school. He described his job now (check pilot) as teaching co-pilots who were transitioning to the left seat pilot's position the fine points of instrument flying over the hump. I was not able to determine if he was acting as a check pilot when his plane went down.


Click here to read the entire letter and to see more items from Betty Clark's collection


From: Betty Clark
To: Clayton Kuhles
Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 9:39 AM
Subject: Re: 2nd Lt. Robert Wagner Tinsley

Dear Clayton (May I?),

Can't put into words what your phone call meant to me. I'm on Cloud 9 thanks to you=absolutely euphoric. I didn't know where you are located so operator told me that 928 is Arizona. Years ago flew into Phoenix and taxied to Sun City for a week where a friend from Schenectday where we both moved as brides, had located after her husband's death. So she wanted me to buy a condo. Good I didn't because she has siince died and, oh, how I love old Cape Cod.

I feel SO blessed that our paths crossed and there are no words for my gratitude. I would NOT bother you but would like your home address IF you don't mind. Of course fascinated by your business.

Did you know that Jon Frank, who contacted you for me, had prostate cancer surgery in December as I recall and still can't go back to work for a few more weeks; however, he stopped in week ago to return all of Bobby's letters that I had given him to peruse. He's extremely intelligent and returned them in better order that I had kept them.

You can tell that words fail me but I'm on Cloud 9.

Warmest,

Betty


From: cclapp
To: Clayton Kuhles
Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 8:44 PM
Subject: Re: archival reports

Mr. Kuhles,

Thank you so much for passing on these reports to me. Each item as such is another piece to our puzzle - -and we are enjoying the uniqueness of the situation. All of the related items such as these, plus those from your website and from other private B-24 sites are being passed around daily. This event of discovery has just about taken on a life of it's own and we are happy to experience it. Thank you for giving us this opportunity to do so.

I will be more than happy to send a photo of Uncle Son to you. All I have on hand and scanned at the moment are a couple of group photos, one in a large class group photo op in front of a B-24. The other a small appearance in what appears to be a social environment with Major Fensler in Pueblo, CO. Let me look around over the next few days to see if I can locate a good head shot.

Frank Fensler sent me a photo of his cousin, Major Robert Fensler, standing in front and to the side of a B-24, apparently stateside. Would you want a copy of that as well? Be glad to send it along if you like.

My situation here is that my age 90 father (brother-in-law of Lt. Nix) passed away about a year ago, the last of that local generation. We've got a huge amount of personal photos, letters, etc. from basically all 4 paternal/maternal sides of the family that accumulated to Dad that we're going through. But give me a few days and I'll get you something if the above is not suitable.

A question if I may - - the report that you sent indicates a base of Pandaveswar. The other report indicates that the aircraft is on station at Kunming. Am I misreading this or is being "based" somewhere not necessarily related to being "stationed" somewhere. Just curious.

Thanks again for all that you've done.

Regards,
Clem Clapp


From: Ms. Lee
To: miarecoveries.org
Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 6:33 AM
Subject: my grandfather

Dear Mr. Kuhles,

I don't know how to thank you for finding my grandfather's plane. My grandfather Radio operator Alvin Lenox sent the last letter to my grandfather stating that he had read the card of death for everyone on board. My grandfather was an amazing man - he read cards and palms. My grandmother was pregnant with my father - their second son - when she received that letter. She never remarried. He was the love of her life. There is so much to my grandfathers childhood. It is an amazing story long before he joined the military!!

Thank you for your tireless work and your incredible generosity to fund this. I am a Special Education teacher and a single mom - money is tight but we are looking into a fund raising effort to help your work. You are truly an angel.

With gratitude,
Christine Lenox


From: Forrest Riley
To: Clayton Kuhles
Sent:
Friday, February 27, 2009
Subject:
B-24J #42-100184

Dear Clayton,

Words can't express the joy I felt when I heard the plane my brother
Robert Riley was flying discovered after over 60 years.

You got to be one Hell of a guy donating time and money for MIA searches.

God Bless You.

Sincerely,
Forrest Riley


From: Huland T. Hunt
To: Clayton Kuhles
Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 10:43 AM
Subject: Missing Aircrew Report for C-46A #41-24739

A few days ago your friend Gary Ziatz telephoned to inquire if I was kin to 2nd Lt. Huland K. Hunt, Hump pilot missing since 1944. I am his son, Huland Thomas Hunt. I was born 12/28/43, a month before he was reported MIA.

I have been out of town since I talked to Mr. Ziatz, so this is the first opportunity I've had to contact you. My father's sister and brother are still alive, though in their mid-80's. They are as stunned and amazed as I am that his plane has been found after all these years, and so thankful to you for finding it.

We want to know all you can tell us, and of course if there is a chance that any remains might still be recovered.We have an empty grave in Bushnell Florida (his hometown) and it would be wonderful if we could put him to rest.

I understand that DNA from his sister or brother would be necessary, and they are ready to provide that. I read your crash site report, and your archeological report. How did you come to investigate crash sites in the CBI theatre?

As I said, I would be so grateful for any further information you might have. I don't have much, since I'm only a cop (Florida Dept. of Environmental Protection) but I would like to contribute something to help you continue your good works.

Thank you so much.
Huland T. Hunt


From: FRANK FENSLER
To: Clayton Kuhles
Sent: Saturday, January 17, 20094:43 PM
Subject: Pregnant Swan

Good Evening:
I just got off the telephone with Gary Zaetz regarding your locating the crash site of my cousin Capt.
Robert Fensler's B-24 in the Himalayas.

I am thrilled beyond belief to learn of this find, as will be his
immediate family (brother and nephew, among others) who live in eastern Nebraska. I will remain in
contact with you.

Thank you for caring. Frank Fensler Waterford, Michigan

Sincerely,

Forrest Riley


From: Jim Huffman
To: Clayton Kuhles
Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 7:45 PM
Subject: Crash site B-24D #42-40069

Dear Mr. Kuhles:

I was contacted today by Gary Zaetz concerning the death of my uncle Phillip G. Huffman in the crash of his B-24 in India while flying the Hump. He located me through my father's obituary, which mentioned my uncle. I appreciate the efforts he has taken to locate the family.

I want to thank you for your efforts. It is nice to finally know where his plane crashed. After my father's death, we were going through his papers. Among his papers, he had a box of letters and pictures from his mother's estate. The letters included my uncle's letter from the war and the original telegram from the War Department notifying the family that his plane was overdue and presumed to have crashed, their efforts to find him, and a letter from his commanding officer.

You may be hearing from my cousin Mark Huffman, who has been making the effort to find out what happened to my uncle's plane.

Thank you,
Jim Huffmam


From: Lee Uran
To: Clayton Kuhles
Sent:
Tuesday, December 23, 2008 10:21 PM
Subject:
C-87 #41-23696

Clayton,

Thanks for your efforts. I found your site earlier today and, from what I read, it appears you've found remains that may be those ofmy uncle, Elwood Stevens. I'll write more in a separate email when I can gather my thoughts! For now, I just want to say "thanks" for your site and your efforts to locate these missing planes and crews.

I've already been in contact with JPAC (thanks for posting your Archaeological Site Report Form with their web address) and they are sending me a DNA swab kit.

I believe my brother and I are Elwood'sonly surviving relatives. Nobody in our family knew what happened to him, other than his plane had disappeared without a trace on a flight over the Hump.

You located his plane in October, 2003. My mother, Elwood's sister, passed away just two months earlier. She spoke so highly of her "big brother." She would have been thrilled at this news, as I am.

Best regards,
Lee Uran


From: Jennifer Cella
To:
Clayton Kuhles
Sent:
Friday, December 12, 2008 9:52 AM
Subject:
Information on crash serial number# 44-41451

Hello:

For many years my family and I have been attempting to find out any information on what happened to my grandfather's brother (Stanley A Levin). The story that was always told to me was:

Stanley was in Army Aircorps in WW2, and contacted his family to report that he was going on an extremely top secret mission and the family would receive a letter stating he was KIA, but to disregard the letter and he would be home for his sister's bday (July 1944). The letter did come and the family disregarded it, thinking all was well! However, he was never heard of again, the Army claims to have no information except that he and the rest of his crew went MIA. My great grandfather, (his dad) actually went to China to find out some kind of information in a desperate attempt to find answers, never getting anywhere. I contacted the VA in 2000, they still only offered his basic info. such as entrance date into militaryand MIA date.

I just found the Missing Air Crew Report at footnote.com, serial number 44-41451. It reports the following:

  • Aircraft: B-24J
  • Crash date: Nov 16, 1944
  • Rank/Position on mission: Corporal, Radar Observer
  • 14th Airforce, 375th Bomb squad, 308th bomb group
  • Departure from Chengkung, China
  • Last heard from plane at 0230 on Nov 16, 1944 and they stated they were in the vicinity of Mengtoz, China in friendly territory.
  • Plane call sign, Love Sugar Oboe. Mission-Combat Recon sweep of South China sea. ;

If you could let me know how to find out more information or if you could offer any assistance at all it would be greatly appreciated by our whole family. Unfortunately, my grandfather died a few years ago, never knowing what happened to his brother. He really spent most of life, mourning his brother and having so much left unresolved. As you can imagine, it is really hard when there are some many questions and NO answers. My grandfather's sister is still alive and would love any information available.

Thanks,
Jennifer Cella


From: Warren Rabe
To: Clayton Kuhles
Sent:
Tuesday, December 09, 2008 9:42 AM
Subject:
A Chabua flight

Dear Mr. Kuhles,

I just discovered your website and perceive a wonderful passion. My step-brother, PFC Donald A. Johnson of Aurora, IL, was one of those lost somewhere on the hump. My mother, his step-mom, recently passed away at 98. Insorting through her things we just discovered all of their correspondence, from Don's boot training at Jefferson Barracks, MO, Sept. 1941, to his last letter from Chabua postmarkedAPO on July 14, 1943. We presume that Don's personal effects were returned home at some point which is why we also have Mom's letters to him through the time period. It's quite a poignant archive to have stumbled across. I was in tears for two hours reading through them all.

We know that Don disappeared on a routine flight from Jorhat, India, to Yabkia, China on Aug. 9, 1943. His last assignment was with the 22nd Transport Group, 77th Squadron. Very curious, would you happen to have any records at all regarding Don, his specific flight and general info about the base at Chabua, his last residence. If you don't, would you please point me in the right direction to someone who may. We aren't getting any younger and it would be nice to know as much as we can about Don's last months before departing this mortal coil ourselves.

On behalf of myself and Don's two surviving siblings, Russ and Betty Johnson Renford, thanks so very much for your dedication to these issues and for anyinfo you may be able to provide in our specific circumstance!

Warren Rabe


From: John Barr
To:
Clayton Kuhles
Sent:
Tuesday, November 11, 2008 1:29 PM
Subject: Lt Harold Ellis Greenberg

Mr. Kuhles:

I read with fascination a story in today's Washington Post by Rama Lakshmi of the paper's Foreign News Service about your quest.

My first cousin, Lt Harold Ellis Greenberg of Washington, D.C., Ellie to the family, was a pilot on acargo aircraft, a C-46, I believe, that flew theHump. He left India for China on December 23,1943 and was never heard from again.

The Army declared him dead in 1948.

I have some information on the flight and his unit, but the family has no information on how or why he perished.

Thank you for your efforts on behalf of our family and all the families of those who flew the Hump andnever returned.

John
John R. Barr, Esquire
Member


From: Jon and Ingrid Frank
To: Clayton Kuhles
Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2008 10:23 PM
Subject: Re: Lt. Robert W. Tinsley

Dear Mr. Kuhles:

Thank you so much for your response. I am going to forward it to Betty Clark.As I explained in my earlier correspondenceBetty Clark,my Dad's neighbor, has waited over 60 years to find out the fate of her younger brother. Because of your web site I learned about missing air crew reports and was able to at least tell her that the approximate location of her brother's last resting place. She was so grateful.I am still puzzled as to why the AAF never informed Lt. Tinsley's family that they knew the fate of his aircraft.

Mr. Kuhles, I want you to know how much I admire the work you are doing.It means so much those families of themen who served with honor and gave their lives for their country. I know a little about aviation and I have come to appreciate how incredibly dangerous flying the Hump was. These were very courageous men. For Betty Clark, and my own Dad who served in the South Pacific, I thank you for all of your efforts. They are most appreciated.

Please say hello to Pam. She was very kind to respond to my emails while to you were away. She also sent an article link about flying the Humpwhich I forwarded to Betty Clark.

Jon Frank

This was the last in a series of correspondence between Clayton and Mr. Frank. Click here to read the exchange.


From: Mary Baker
To: Clayton Kuhles
Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2008 5:39 PM
Subject:
Missing

MY HUSBANDS UNCLE LYNDAL ELMO DANIELS, WAS REPORTED TO BE MISSING IN ACTION, AS HE FLEW OVER THE HUMP. DO YOU HAVE ANY INFORMATION ON HIM, OR HIS PLANE? IT WAS A CARGO PLANE. WE THINK HE WAS ON HIS FIRST MISSION AS CAPTAIN. ALL WE HEARD, WAS THAT HE WAS MISSING IN ACTION. WE WOULD APPRECIATE ANY INFORMATION, THAT YOU MAY HAVE. THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR WORK, THAT YOU ARE DOING TO FIND THESE AIRPLANES, AND THE NAMES OF THE MEN.

SINCERELY
GERALD L. BAKER
HARDY, ARKANSAS


From: phylpage1
To: Clayton Kuhles
Sent:
Sunday, October 26, 2008 6:33 PM
Subject:
Lt. Walter H. Page, Jr.

Dear Mr. Kuhles:

My 80 year old aunt has been following the news stories concerning Mr. Zaetz from Cary, NC and your recoveries in the Himalayas. My uncle named in the subject line above was also involved in a crash there in 1944. My aunt is forwarding the information regarding his plane to me. I do not think it is one listed on your website as he was the pilot. I just thought you might want the information when I get it. I am the only surviving member of the Page family. My uncle (Walter's brother) passed away this past March. He and my aunt had been married 65 years and if by some miracleWalter's remains or something of his were to ever turn up it would mean alot to her.

I will be in touch.

Thank you,
Phyllis Page


From: Denise Petty
To: Clayton Kuhles
Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 7:32 PM
Subject: MIA WWII

DEAR MR KUHLES

MY UNCLE ROBERT SHERMAN IS A MIA FROM WWII. WE HAVE INFORMATION THAT HIS PLANE CRASHED IN THE BURMA AREA HE WAS A RADIO OPERATOR IN THE AIR FORCE. WE BELIEVE THE PLANE CRASHED ON 6 OR 7TH JANUARY 1945. WE THINK IT WAS A RED CROSS FLIGHT. ONE OF THE LAST ONES OUT OF CHINA. DID ANY OF THE PLANES YOU HAVE FOUND HAVE OTHER PEOPLE ON THEM OTHER THAN THE CREW? MY FATHER WOULD BE MOST GRATEFUL FOR ANY INFORMATION AS HE LOST THREE BROTHERS VERY CLOSE TOGETHER IN THIS CONFLICT.

ANY INFORMATION WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED AS MY FATHER IS IN VERY POOR HEALTH AND STILL HOPING TO BE ABLE TO FINALLY LAY THIS LAST MEMBER OF HIS FAMILY TO REST. YOUR HELP WILL BE GREATLY APPRECIATED.

KINDEST REGARDS
DENISE (SHERMAN) PETTY


From: Kristen Suwanski
To:
Clayton Kuhles
Sent:
Monday, September 29, 2008 7:47 PM
Subject:
Thank you

Mr. Kuhles,

I just saw the WGN tv news segment about your expeditions and work. I just wanted to thank you for doing something so unselfish with your time and money. It is so rare and amazing to see something uplifting on the news, and your story has truly inspired me. I wish you the best of luck. I am a college student with limited funds at this time...but I hope that others see the work that you've done and are moved to send you money.

Thank you for all that you do!

Sincerely,
Kristen Suwanski
Resident Assistant


From: betty clark
To:
Clayton Kuhles
Sent:
Tuesday, September 02, 2008 11:13 AM
Subject:
September 2, 2008


Photo of Betty Clark's MIA brother 2nd Lt. Robert W. Tinsley

Dear Sir:

A neighbor suggested I get in touch with you. My only brother, Robert Wagner Tinsley, enlisted in the Army Air Corps the day after Pearl Harbor. He flew the Hump and was scheduled to come home Dec. 1944 BUT on Sept. 17, 1944 his plane crashed over the Himalayas and has never been found. From what I was able to learn, he had completed a mission and was returning and the Japs set up false beams. Think he was flying solo.

I'll be 93 next month and could live more peacefully if his remains could ever be found--or would there be any after all these years?

I have a memorial to him here at the Bourne National Cemetery on Cape Cod. It's nearby so whenever I can I go over to clean off his stone and talk to him. I have Peripheral Neuropathy which makes me unable to walk without a walker so am sorta housebound.

MOST Appreciatively,
(Mrs.) Betty Clark


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Postcard from Louise Handley






August 15, 2008

Letter from Steve Deaux



From: betty clark
To: info@miarecoveries.org
Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 8:39 AM
Subject: Brother Missing In Action

Dear Mr. Kuhles,

A neighbor thought you might be able to help me. My only brother, Robert Wagner Tinsley, enlisted in the Army Air Corps the day after Pearl Harbor. He became a pilot over the China, Burma, India theatre and was due to come home December 1944 BUT Sept. 17, 1944 he crashed over theHimalaya Mts. and his remains have never been found. We heard that the Japs had set up false beams. One NEVER gets over such a loss. My Mother's hair turned white altho she lived to be almost 101. I like to think that they're in Heaven together. I have a memorial to him here at the Bourne National Cemetery on Cape Cod, Massachusetts, and went over a week ago to "touch up" his stone=#100 in Missing In Action section.

I'll be 93 in October and the most wonderful present I could get would be to learn that Bobby's plane and remains have been found after 64 years.

I have a portrait of him hanging in my living room that he had painted once while he was on leave in India. His eyes look tired but, oh, how I loved him.

Think I still have a letter he wrote me that he had flown over a mountain higher than Everest. I sent a copy then to Lowell Thomas who was a nightly broadcaster like our current Charles Gibson, for example, but he doubted the veracity. Bobby would have no reason to tell me were it not so.

Thank you for listening.
Betty Clark
Birth Name: CatharineElizabeth TINSLEY


Click to read letterAugust 8, 2008

I have been meaning to write you to express my gratitude and almost disbelief in your work on behalf of MIA Recoveries. Little did I ever dream that my uncle Joseph P. Natvik's plane would be found in India (C-109 #44-49628).

I was informed of this wonderful news on December 31, 2007 and since speaking with Gary Zetz in North Carolina, he arranged for a DNA kit to be sent to me as I am the only child of my uncle's sister.

Read the rest of the letter


From: Craig Noll
To: claytonkuhles
Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 11:19 AM
Subject: Russell Coldren - CNAC #77

Dear Mr. Kuhles,

Russell Coldren of Maryland, nephew of Russell W. Coldren, pilot of CNAC #77, has been keeping me in the loop with regard to your discovery of the CNAC #77 crash site. Unknowingly, your exceptional efforts have had unforeseen consequences. Understanding that your discovery has had personal implications probably far beyond anything you’ve imagined, please allow me to share a couple of them.

Russell W. Coldren, the pilot of CNAC #77, was a close childhood friend of my father. Russell and my father grew up in the small town of Newmanstown, PA, population approximately 1,500, loving airplanes. My father went on to fly C-46s and C-47s for the Army Air Forces in the Pacific at the same time Russell, having left Pan Am to volunteer for CNAC, was flying the China-Burma-India Theater. As a young boy also growing up in Newmanstown, PA, my father would always take us to the local cemetery on Memorial Day. Year after year, I vividly remember viewing the cemetery marker (See Attached Headstone) for Russell always being fascinated by the C-47 engraved atop the marker. For many years, there was a sad mystic surrounding that small town’s memorials erected in Russell’s memory. Your interest and tenacious efforts have put that mystic to rest.

I’ve also attached a copy of excerpts from the community’s Memorial Park Dedication booklet for your viewing. These excerpts contain a photo and description of Russell along with a brief history of the park. The “John Snyder” listed in paragraph #3 as being present at the initial meeting was my step-grandfather who flew in World War One and also served again in World War II. The second to last paragraph in this history speaks of the Coldren family’s involvement, the fact that the family actually donated the plot of land upon which the park was built. Although Russell’s nephew in Maryland might shed more light on this, I’ve been told that Russell used to send money home from the CBI Theater and that it may have very well been money he earned flying the HUMP that was actually used to purchase this plot of land.

Again, the appreciation for your interest and tenacity goes far beyond what you could have ever imagined. It would be a pleasure to personally meet with you some day and talk about your experiences. That would be quite easy for me to do as I live in Boise, Idaho and am a pilot for the airlines.

Take care,

Craig Noll
Boise, ID


From: sbmease
To: "Clayton Kuhles"
Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 4:36 PM
Subject: Re: The Forgotten Airline

CLAYTON,

I RECEIVED THE ARTIFACTS AND DVDS. THANKS SO MUCH FOR YOUR THOUGHTFULNESS. I AM OVERWHELMED WITH ALL OF THE INFORMATION. I'VE CALLED JPAC BUT WEBB IS ALWAYS BUSY WITH VISITORS. I'LL TRY AGAIN TOMORROW, BUT I DOUBT IF THERE WILL BE ANY SATISFACTORY ANSWERS. YOUR EXPEDITIONS ARE AMAZING. YOU SHOULD BE WORKING FOR NATIONAL GEOGRAPHIC. I PLAN TO SEND A CONTRIBUTION BUT IT WON'T BE ENOUGH.

I'LL LET YOU KNOW WHAT JPAC HAS TO SAY. WORDS CAN'T EXPRESS MY APPRECIATION FOR YOUR WORK .

SINCERELY,
BUD

NOTE FROM CLAYTON KUHLES: Bud Mease is the son of Capt. Jennings H. Mease, whose C-87 aircraft disappeared on the "Hump" route on 24 April 1943. At the time his father was listed as MIA, Bud was just 6 years old. I found and documented Capt. Mease's long-missing aircraft on 19 Oct 2003. I recently located Bud Mease and notified him of the discovery. The report on C-87 #41-23696 can be viewed here.


From: Dan Barrier
To: 'Clayton Kuhles'
Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 2:13 PM
Subject: RE: Pilot John Boger

Clayton,

Thank you for providing the accident report on my uncle, Capt. John Boger. I've always wondered if a search was ever made to find his crew. Apparently, there was no distress call made before the plane went down, so we can only speculate as to what happened. I imagine that happened to a lot of our planes over the “hump”. My mother, Elise Boger Barrier, is alive and well today and still wonders about her brother. I’ll pass this information along to her. Your website is very interesting and keep up the good work. Thanks for your help.

Dan Barrier


From: sbmease
To: "Clayton Kuhles"
Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 7:55 PM
Subject: Re: Artifacts

CLAYTON,

THANKS FOR YOUR HELP. I TRIED TO CALL JOHNIE WEBB TODAY BUT HE WAS UNAVAILABLE. WILL TRY AGAIN TOMORROW. I LOOKED AT YOUR WEB SITE TODAY. YOUR WORK IS VERY IMPRESSIVE. IT GAVE ME MORE INFO THAN I'VE EVER HAD. AFTER MY MOTHER RE-MARRIED LIFE MOVED ON AND WE NEVER WENT BACK TO NC. I'LL GET THAT PICTURE TO YOU.

SINCERELY,
BUD MEASE

PS: THAT WAS MY FATHERS NICKNAME ALSO.


From: putnampass
To: claytonkuhles
Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2008 2:35 PM
Subject: Your email to Ralph Hawes, Jr.

First, thanks for your work. I wish my step grandfather, Col. Samuel Lunday had lived to know the actual fate of his son's aircraft. It seemed to haunt him....just the uncertainty... until he passed away in 1992. He and I sat on the front porch of the old home place where I retired to in 2003 and I listened to him talk about just knowing "for sure" and what a great relief that would be. His daughter, through her son I had presumed would show more interest but apparently has none. Since "the Col." as I always called him was the only grandfather I ever knew, I certainly would welcome the artifacts and keep them as a part of our family's history. I would be happy to send you the cost of shipment either as you suggested or in advance. My mailing/shipping address is

Fabian L. Fain, Sr.
(Address removed for privacy)

I just finished with two family reunions this weekend hence the delay in getting this to you. I look forward to sharing your "finds" with the reunions next year. My own family has already enjoyed the information and videos of your expedition which I have shared with them.

God Bless and again my deep thanks!
Fabian



July 21, 2008

We received a note mailed to us from Susan Smith.

Click to read the note.


From: Russ Coldren
To: Clayton Kuhles
Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 3:26 AM
Subject: Re: Final photos

Clayton,
I am in awe again. I am speechless! I can't thank you enough. I would very much like to have the artifacts . Ihave a UPS account that you can use. My Dad and Uncle were from a small town in Pennsylvania and the family burial plot has a stone erected in his honor. If any remains were ever recovered I would put them to rest there. I will get a picture of the marker to you. One the part of my family and myself I want to thank you so much for your efforts.

Regards,
Russ Coldren


From: "Russ Coldren"
To: "Bob Willett""Clayton kuhles"
Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 6:55 AM
Subject: CNAC Captain Russell William Coldren

Gentlemen,

You may have already received an e mail or two from me or my wife. I am the nephew of Russell Coldren for whom you recovered his CNAC plane #77. I did not know his plane had been recovered until yesterday while reading the current issue of the "Cannon Ball". It has been five years and I had no knowledge! I am the name- sake of my Uncle and was in awe at discovering this.

Before asking many questions I personally want to thank you men for your efforts in bringing closure to many families. My Father died last fall and I know he would have wanted to know this before leaving. He and my Uncle were very close, both being aircraft nuts and I also with my dad. I guess they are together now armchair flying.

Questions--

  1. Are the remains property of the Chinese government?
  2. Were there any remains, human remains? My sister and I are the only living blood relatives. I read that some relatives have gone through DNA testing.
  3. Are there any photos other than what I saw on the web site?
  4. Are there records of the flight that day? What was the cargo, etc..?
  5. Would there have been communication errors between a Chinese crew and my uncle, in your opinion.

Thanking you in advance,
Russ Coldren


July 3, 2008

Resolution 2008-23GENERAL ASSEMBLY OF NORTH CAROLINA
SESSION 2007
RATIFIED BILL
RESOLUTION 2008-23
HOUSE JOINT RESOLUTION 2798

A JOINT RESOLUTION HONORING THE MEMORY OF THE CREW OF THE B-24J LIBERATOR WHO WAS LOST DURING WORLD WAR II, AND EXPRESSING GRATITUDE TO CLAYTON KUHLES FOR HIS DISCOVERY OF THE PLANE, NICKNAMED "HOT AS HELL," IN 2006.

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June 23, 2008

Hello Clayton Kuhles,

I am sending you a copy of an e-mail that I sent to the "Hot As Hell" families and friends in April concerning an idea I had to send the "economic stimulus payments" we received from the U.S. Government to you to help in your efforts to find more lost aircraft in South Asia. I just received my payment, so I am enclosing my check for that amount. I hope some of the others will think it is a good idea and also contribute.

On your own you have accomplished what the U.S. Defense Department has failed to do; you have located the aircraft that our loved ones so courageously served upon. The B-24 "Hot As Hell" had been on that hillside in NE India for over 63 years when you happened upon it.

Because of your great humanitarian efforts, we have hope that one day soon JPAC will recover the remains of our loved ones, identify them, and return them to their families for the proper burial they deserve.

May God bless you Clayton for what you have done for finding the Hot As Hell. May God continue to bless you on your future trips to search for more lost aircraft.

Tommy Oxford,
Nephew of Bombardier 1st Lt. Robert E. Oxford


June 21, 2008

A resolution drafted by the Veterans of Foreign Wars, Department of North Carolina....

Click to open and read this resolution.


Click for Full Size Letter May 19, 2008

This letter was written by the Department of Defense to Sen. Patrick Leahy (VT) in response to the senator's request to provide funding to Clayton Kuhles for his MIA search efforts.

Click here to read this letter to Senator Leahy written by Charles Ray, Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense.

Perhaps congress should eliminate the generous pay / benefits / retirement package for Charles Ray, as that compensation surely detracts from the humanitarian nature of his mission at DPMO.You can bet thefamilies of the MIA US personnel wouldwant the Defense Dept. to allocate whatever money and other resources needed to get their loved ones remains returned to them. It has been well documented that the US government pays the governments of North Korea, Vietnam and Laos for the right to repatriate US military remains from those countries.


Certificate of Appreciation
April 11, 2008
Subject: Office of the Governor of Arizona, Certificate of Appreciation

Clayton Kuhles was presented with this Certificate of Appreciation by Arizona Governor Janet Napolitano. The certificate reads: "Be it known to all that Clayton Kuhles is awarded this certificate in recognition of his dedicated service to the families of World War II MIA aircrews. The time and effort you have given to find these crash sites is greatly appreciated not only by the families that you have brought closure to but to all Arizonans. On behalf of the citizens of the State of Arizona, I thank you and commend you for your admirable service. Best wishes and success in all future endeavors.

Click here to open a full-size view of this certificate


From: Chintamani Vaidya
To: miarecoveries.org
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 9:01 AM
Subject: your article on MIA recoveries

Dear Mr. Clayton Kuhles,
My name is Chintamani Vaidya, a resident of Faridabad near the capital city of India. Today, the 19th of March 2008, I read your article in The Hindustan Times (an english daily printed from Delhi, India) on MIA recoveries. I was very much moved by your acts of kindness and insisted that at least I must pen my thoughts, even though I am in no way connected to the countless families of war veterans.

While going thru the website, I read the various letters written by the relatives of MIA heroes, choking my emotions.

If they were heroes fighting an enemy, defending the world against oppressors, you are a super hero or should I say, a messiah to bring peace to those unsung heroes of the war.

I do not know how, but if I could be of any help, please do let me know, whatever I can........

With kind regards to you and your efforts, humanity is still alive and thriving...

Chintamani Vaidya
2150 Sector 16,
Faridabad - 121 002
(Haryana)
INDIA


From: Carrature, Gerald V LTC RET
To: miarecoveries.org
Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2008 7:05 AM
Subject: Donations

I would like to commend you for your efforts on locating our fallen heroes from WWII. You have done a great service to your country, even if the government hasn't!! I will be sending a donation to the address listed on the website this week. Do you need any volunteers to assist you on your expeditions??

Please advise, keep up the good work!!

Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
Gerald V. Carrature
LTC - US Army (Ret.)


From: Debbie
To: miarecoveries.org
Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008
Subject: PFC Natvik

Dear Mr. Kuhles,
I had stumbled on a notice of friends or relatives of PFC Joseph I Natvik. Joseph Natvik was my father's older brother, my uncle. If you could send me any information, pictures of the site, etc. I would be so very happy. I contacted my cousin Joan Link, my father's niece, about the findings and she is now waiting for the DNA Kit to arrive. This is great news for the whole family. All of Uncle Joe's siblings are now deceased, my father, David A. Natvik, died last May. They all passed wondering what had happened to their brother. Their mother always wondered also. Somehow they must all be at peace now that they are rejoined with Uncle Joe. Thank-you for all of the hard work that you do. You must be a lot of joy to a lot of families. This was my cousin's lifelong dream to find out what happened to Uncle Joe. She is anxiously awaiting for the Kit. Thank-you again from all of us, Natviks.

Sincerely,
Debra J Natvik Wheeler


From: Debbie
To: Clayton Kuhles
Sent: Sunday, March 16,2008
Subject: Re: PFC Joseph I. Natvik

Hi Clayton,

Yes I did receive the crash site photos. I had gone on the the miarecoveries.com site and received the same photos. It is so interesting to see the site where my uncle Joe's remains are. I don't know what the procedures are in his proper burial. I look forward to the day when they contact my cousin with the DNA results, once she receives the kit and sends it in. This was her lifelong dream in finding out what happened to him. She was so happy when I stumbled on the site of inquiring on friends or relatives of PFC Joseph I Natvik. I had just found out that my father had passed away in May 07 and was looking on a message board to see if anyone was with him when he died. That's when I saw the message about my uncle Joe. I just want to say thank-you for all that you do in looking for these crash sites. I can't thank you enough.

Sincerely,
Debbie Natvik Wheeler


From: "Terri Conner"
To: "Clayton Kuhles"
Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2008
Subject: Thanks

My name is Terri Roan Conner. I am the great-niece of Lt. Eugene Oxford. My mother is Merrill Roan. I just wanted to say thank you for everything you have done for my family and others. You will never know how much this means to the Oxford family!!! They are the nicest, most caring people in the world. I am proud to say I am an Oxford! You have brought some closure to our family's tragedy. I can remember my grandmother, Martha Oxford Roan, and her brothers reminiscing about 'Gene' and always wondered what happened.

I just wanted to write you to let you know that you and your family and your expeditions are in my prayers. That is a promise! May the Lord bless you and keep you close!!!

Again,
Thank you,
Terri Conner


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Important Notice: These MIA recovery expeditions and this website have been almost entirely self-funded by Clayton Kuhles.  No funding is received from the US government.  If you believe this is a worthwhile humanitarian project that needs to be pursued, then please visit the Funding page on this website to see how easy it is to support this project in a meaningful manner.  MIA Recoveries, Inc is a tax-exempt public charity under section 501(c)(3) of the Internal Revenue Code.  Donations to MIA Recoveries, Inc are deductible under section 170 of the Code.  Thank you!

 
 

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